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Goals or systems? What actually helps you get where you want to go

Goals work, and the research is solid. They also have side effects. The fix is not swapping goals for systems: it is knowing which one to look at each day.

It took me a long time to notice that my problem with goals was not failing to hit them.

Sometimes I did hit them. And then something odd happened: I stopped. I hit my page count for the month, and the next month I wrote nothing. I reached the weight I had written down, and six months later I was back where I started.

When I missed, it was worse. The goal became a debt. Every day behind pace was a reminder that I was late.

Then I read the line a lot of people have read: goals are for losers, systems are for winners. It felt like the answer. It was not, quite.

The difference, in one line

A goal is a point in the future. A system is what you do on a Tuesday.

"Finish the thesis by June" is a goal. "Write from eight to nine, Monday to Thursday" is a system. You can only check a goal at the end. You can check a system today.

Where "goals are for losers" came from

The line belongs to Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert. He wrote it in a 2013 book and in a Wall Street Journal piece the same year. His argument is psychological, not statistical: if your goal is to lose ten pounds, you spend every day until then feeling short of it. And when you get there, you lose the thing that gave the effort its meaning.

James Clear took the idea further, first on his blog and then in Atomic Habits in 2018. His best-known argument: winners and losers have the same goals. Every Olympian wants gold. So the goal cannot be what separates the people who win from the people who do not.

It is a good argument for a conversation. But notice what it is: an observation about winners, made looking backwards. Nobody counted how many losers had excellent systems.

Both writers speak from their own experience. That is worth something. It is just not evidence.

What the research says, and it is nearly the opposite

The goal-setting literature is one of the most solid in applied psychology. Edwin Locke and Gary Latham summed up 35 years of it in American Psychologist in 2002: specific, difficult goals produce more performance than "do your best", and the effect holds in labs, in companies and across countries.

They also explain why. A goal directs attention, raises effort, stretches persistence and pushes you to look for strategies. None of that is for losers.

The warning label arrived in 2009. Lisa Ordóñez, Maurice Schweitzer, Adam Galinsky and Max Bazerman published "Goals Gone Wild" in Academy of Management Perspectives. Their list of side effects: a narrow focus that makes you ignore everything outside the goal; more unethical behaviour; a bigger appetite for risk; and lower intrinsic motivation. Their image for it: a goal is a prescription-strength drug that needs careful dosing and supervision.

One of the studies behind it came from Schweitzer and Ordóñez themselves, with Bambi Douma, in 2004. In the lab, people with a specific goal they had not met overstated their performance more often than people told to do their best. And they did it even more when they had come close.

Locke and Latham replied in the same issue, accusing the critics of cherry-picking. It is a real debate, not a consensus. But both sides agree on one point: the problem is not having a goal. It is a goal with nothing around it.

What the research calls a system

This is the part almost nobody connects.

"System", in Adams's and Clear's sense, is not a scientific concept. You cannot measure it. But there is something very close to it that has been measured to death: the implementation intention.

It is a plan in if-then form. If it is Tuesday after lunch, then I open the thesis file. Peter Gollwitzer and Paschal Sheeran pooled 94 tests of this format, with more than 8,000 participants, in a 2006 meta-analysis. The effect on reaching the goal was medium to large.

Notice the detail: the if-then plan does not replace the goal. It hangs off it. The research does not tell you to choose between a goal and a system. It tells you to tie one to the other.

How to have a goal without being held hostage by it

Side by side

GoalSystem
AnswersWhere do I want to get to?What do I do today?
When you check itAt the end, or on set datesEvery day or every week
Typical failureDaily debt, shortcuts near the finish, stopping once you hit itA routine nobody reviews that leads nowhere
What the evidence supportsSpecific, difficult goals raise performance, with side effectsIf-then plans raise goal attainment

What is still unanswered

There is no study comparing "goal people" with "system people". There cannot be: a system is not a variable you can measure.

And systems have their own failure mode, which their fans rarely mention.

So here is where I land: the goal gives you the question. The system gives you Tuesday. And someone has to remember to ask the question every so often.

Where this ended up in what I built

I had both and used them the wrong way round. I looked at the goal every day and at the system never. The result was daily guilt and no review.

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Frequently asked questions

What is the difference between a goal and a system?

A goal is a result you want at some point in the future: run a half marathon in April. A system is what you do repeatedly, whatever the result: run on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday mornings. The goal tells you where. The system tells you what happens today. They complement each other; the trouble starts when one takes the other's place.

Is it true that "goals are for losers"?

Not according to the research. The line comes from Scott Adams, the cartoonist, and was popularised by James Clear. It is an opinion drawn from personal experience. Decades of studies show that specific, difficult goals raise performance. What the research also shows is that goals have side effects when the dose is wrong.

How do I turn a goal into a system?

Write an if-then plan: if situation X happens, then I do action Y. For example, "if it is Tuesday after lunch, I open the thesis file". This format, called an implementation intention, has a meta-analysis of 94 tests showing a medium-to-large effect on reaching goals. It is the most tested bridge between wanting and doing.

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About the author

Matheus Valadares

Founder of ASB

Developer and founder of ASB. He built Sofia after realising the problem was never a missing to-do app; it was having to remember to open one.

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